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bill maher’s apology was better than the pope’s apology

Subtle. Brilliant. Manipulative. Not Bill Maher. The Pope.

Pope Benedict XVI has come to America and apologized for the sexual abuse perpetrated by Catholic priests. He may have apologized for the truly heinous sin of the bishops’ coverup, too, but I’m not really sure. In fact, I’m not exactly sure what he said, because his logic makes me feel like I’m crazy. Nevertheless, don’t let his humble, mild-mannered appearance fool you. He’s a wiley man, and he managed to apologize for the Church by blaming us.

Here’s what I mean, a few quotes from the Washington Post via Get Religion:

  • the abuse of minors…had to be eradicated in a broader attack on the degradation of modern-day sexuality
  • to address the sin of abuse within the wider context of sexual mores
  • What does it mean to speak of child protection when pornography and violence can be viewed in so many homes

Why should the sex abuse scandal be addressed in the “broader attack on the degradation of modern-day sexuality”? The sex abuse scandal has little to do with sex and everything to do with power and lies. And is he suggesting we’re hypocrites to go on and on about protecting children from priests because “pornography and violence can be viewed in so many homes”?

His assumptions are outrageous. His implications are just plain wrong.

Torturing Reason

First, the Pope’s framing of the issue implies that sexual abuse by priests is a modern thing, a result of the decay of morals in the modern world. All we can say for sure is the revelation of it is modern. Do any of us really believe pedophiles, molesters, and rapists entered the Church only in the 20th century? Anecdotes have reached us throughout history of such things, but we weren’t ready to believe the children in those Golden Days the Pope harkens back to. Clearly, it didn’t take modernity to create abusers and a cabal of men to hide it. It did take modernity to speak truth to power.

Secondly, the framing implies the abuse and cover ups were the result of sexual desire. But sex between authority and its subject doesn’t exist by mutual consent and is therefore more appropriately examined as a power relation. Like rape is about violence, not sex, these priestly transgressions are about eroticized inequality, whether the victims were children or teenagers. Dominance, not relationship, is the turn-on.

Pope Benedict XVI is a brilliant thinker, so this framing is deliberate, and therefore, shameful. He means to imply abusive priests arise from a culture with a liberal sexuality, so he’s using the scandal to further his agenda against our “moral relativism.” This, of course, doesn’t begin to explain the coverup, and you’ll notice he wants to make this a conversation entirely about sex to avoid the real discussion about his bishops.

The more his notion of “moral relativism” is spoken of in the press, and the more it’s linked to sex and abuse, the less culpable the Church will appear. Already, one commenter on another blog took up the Pope’s message, blaming our liberal culture for priest/boys “sex parties” she had heard about. Who really believes such liaisons have only occurred in our modern “liberal” culture? And what about the bishops who said they never happened?

Better than Barack

I’m not sure the Pope is as charming as Senator Obama, but he’s certainly better at torturing logic in his speeches. The Pope’s preferred method of argument is an indirect maneuvering, a perversion of the Socratic method that gently pushes you toward a conclusion that makes no sense until he’s linked tenuous premises and broad generalizations together.

His book Jesus of Nazareth was so brimming over with this style of arguing that I could barely finish it. I’ll save that analysis for another post, as there’s lots to say about his idea of freedom and obedience, but one example I’ll share is his analysis of the Beatitudes.

For 29 pages the Pope examines Jesus’s message to the people; you know, the meek shall inherit the earth, etc. Jesus was talking to the people, addressing individual suffering, but by the end of his analysis, the Pope has made Jesus’s Sermon on the Mount about the Church:  

The people who are persecuted for righteousness’s sake are those who live by God’s righteousness–by faith. Because man constantly strives for emancipation from God’s will in order to follow himself alone, faith will always appear as a contradiction to the “world”–to the ruling powers at any given time. For this reason, there will be persecution for the sake of righteousness in every period of history. This word of comfort is addressed to the persecuted Church of all times. In her powerlessness and in her sufferings, she knows that she stands in the place where God’s Kingdom is coming. (p89)

Emphasis is mine. 

The Pope is writing on the persecution of people and their powerlessness in the world as described by Jesus, but then he suddenly transposes “people” with “Church” (and, yes, that is his capitalization). The Pope calls the Church “powerless” and “set apart” from the world. Are you kidding me? And who’s persecuting whom?

The Heart of the Maher

Bill Maher is just damn funny. And he hates religion. I don’t blame him for that. His criticisms are well-founded. In his sarcastic style he compared the Pope to the leaders of the FLDS and neither fared well. Outcry over his comments forced him to apologize. I like his nonapology much better than the Pope’s.

For now, I’ll leave you with Bill Maher, who doesn’t mind being direct. (YouTube video is defunct. Here’s the text.)

Last week I got into some trouble with the Catholic League…not the first time. The Catholic League not my…how many Catholic League members…not my biggest fans.

Because I said in our little essay ending the show, I said the Pope – and I looked at it again…I looked at the words carefully – “used to be a Nazi.”

OK, now first of all, it was a joke, during a comedic context… I said he used to be a Nazi, he wears funny hats, and ladies, he’s single. So, right away we’re in the context of a joke, OK and “used to”…

But now, you know what. You got me OK, the Pope was not a Nazi. When he was a teenager he was in the Hitler Youth, which meant that he said the oath directly to Hitler and not to the Nazis, which is sort of worse.

OK, but, but wait a second. The thing that argues for their side of this is that he was coerced into it. He was a teenager, I wouldn’t blame him, he was a 14-year old kid in Nazi Germany, of course he’s going to do what they tell him to do.

So on that score, you know what, my Catholic friends, I will never make ‘The Pope is a Nazi’ joke again. Because you’re technically right, okay, and also because it distracts from the main point.

And the main point I was making was that if the Pope, instead of a religious figure, was the CEO of a chain of nationwide day care centers who had thousands of employees who had been caught molesting children and then covering it up, he would have been in jail. So…and I noticed they didn’t say a word about that.

Categories: politics, religion, sex
  1. nearlynormalized
    April 20, 2008 at 9:06 am | #1

    The POPE in his red slippers, he has to kiss ass, the church is losing the die hard Catholics. What does the Chruch offer to the living? I am so fed up with the dress up game, richness and the zillion $’s that are under the Vatican for those special ones to jerk off to. Angry, yes because of the massive cover ups from the get go.

  2. April 20, 2008 at 10:20 am | #2

    I don’t blame you for being angry, nearlynormalized. I was thinking about the Pope’s assertion that the Church “stands in the place where God’s Kingdom is coming.” Here is an old white man with hand-made vestments living in a palace with cooks, servants, and guards. His country is a theocracy where only men rule and his country has U.N. observer status, to boot. Wherever he travels, he receives the accommodations of royalty.

    If Jesus arrived today, he wouldn’t be found at the Vatican. He’d be in an urban alley, a barren farmfield, a shack surrounded by starving children, or some killing field of war. You’ll find Catholics in those places, too; they are women and men who work for Christ but are not allowed to speak for him.

    The thing we must insist upon is that the Church isn’t the Magisterium. It is the people.

  3. richard shade gardner
    April 20, 2008 at 10:27 am | #3

    I surf the WWW looking for personal blogs worth reading. I just found one. I generally avoid reading anything suggestive of religion, but your sentences beg listening to. You can see what I wrote at: http://personalblogreviews.wordpress.com

  4. incogman
    April 20, 2008 at 10:35 am | #4

    Attacking Christianity and especially Catholics is the fashionable thing to do — especially by arrogant elitists like Bill Maher.

    Funny thing: No one ever hears about the sexual abuses of Orthodox Jewry of Yeshiva students (extensive — I have 8 pages of incidents) but we hear about this Catholic thing non-stop. Or the fact that Talmudism says it’s OK for nine-year olds to marry or to have sex with a three year old and a day. Or the Rabbi who escaped justice to Israel and only recently was extradited.

    But I guess the media has a hands-off policy when it comes to Jews for some reason, huh? One that is obviously not in effect for Catholics, being fair game. It’s not Catholics getting massive cover-ups, nearlynormalized, but Jews.

    I like the way Bill Maher declares himself “an equal opportunity hater” since he’s both attacked Catholics and Muslims. But for some reason, he fails to tell his audience that his mother was Jewish, making him technically a full Jew.

    Somehow, I doubt you’ll have the guts to put this comment up.

    http://incogman.wordpress.com/

  5. April 20, 2008 at 1:13 pm | #5

    incogman, no need to bait me into posting you. I post anyone who comments, regardless what they say. The only deletes are obvious spam trying to get traffic without adding any content.

    Of course, you’re right about coverups and sex scandals in other institutions. It’s been so covered in Catholicism because it’s just easier, I think. I’m not sure it’s anti-Catholic sentiment so much as the paper trail is preserved and consolidated in each diocese–but this doesn’t take away from your point.

    If other institutions can get a website with material like http://www.bishop-accountability.org, then we’re on our way.

  6. April 20, 2008 at 1:15 pm | #6

    I think the Pope is completely right. The reason why priests end up feeling like violating kids is because some members of the clergy listen to rap music, watch action movies, and view South Park. I bet the Jews crucified Jesus and persecuted him because they watched too much Tom and Jerry.
    Thank God for the Pope who was “broad-minded” enough to cut out pedophilia as a qualification to become a priest from now onwards. The world is going to be alright after all.

  7. April 20, 2008 at 2:50 pm | #7

    BismillaharRahmanirRahim

    as-salaamu ‘alaikum. aniche you wrote,

    “The reason why priests end up feeling like violating kids is because some members of the clergy listen to rap music, watch action movies, and view South Park.”

    The way you put it is funny but, I think what is being said here has merit that you are overlooking. If we look deeply, for example in your statement, we can see that what is being implied is quite profound.

    The priests, the carriers of a 1700 year old religious tradition, one that so much effort was invested in by Holy people is now being carried by those who have one foot in and one foot out. Their lifestyle resembles more a secular non-religious person, than say for instance Saint Francis Assisi.

    It is the traditions of people like St. Barnabas that these priests are supposed to be following yet instead they are following some other way. So of course there is going to be some serious and very dangerous deviancy. How can some one control their ego; their passions and desires under those circumstances.

    This is not a defense of the priests, it is an agreement with the point of your sarcasm, just a different spin on it.

    -Saifuddin

  8. God
    April 20, 2008 at 3:23 pm | #8

    Thou speakest ill of MY POPE! He can do no wrong!

    http://stuffgodhates.wordpress.com/2008/04/13/6-the-virgin-mary/

  9. amanda
    April 20, 2008 at 3:48 pm | #9

    My God! Is that the reason they got rid of Tom and Jerry? I miss those buggers.

  10. Ed
    April 20, 2008 at 5:36 pm | #10

    I agree, somehow we can just overlook decades of sexual abuse? Christians need to get real and remember exactly what Christian values are,… rarely do I meet any ‘Christian’ who honestly knows what that is,…including the pope….words are meaningless, what action has he taken to insure this won’t keep happening? – NONE.

  11. incogman
    April 21, 2008 at 12:00 am | #11

    incogman, no need to bait me into posting you. I post anyone who comments, regardless what they say. The only deletes are obvious spam trying to get traffic without adding any content.

    Why thank you. Some people are quick to slander me as a Nazi, of which I am not. It’s good that you allow true free speech. I commend you.

    Of course, you’re right about coverups and sex scandals in other institutions. It’s been so covered in Catholicism because it’s just easier, I think. I’m not sure it’s anti-Catholic sentiment so much as the paper trail is preserved and consolidated in each diocese–but this doesn’t take away from your point.

    And my point being is that Catholics are fair game in this country by the media, who are obviously protective of Zionists and Jewish supremacists. This is all too apparent, anymore. Orthodox Jewish rabbis have a serious pedophile problem, at least as bad as the Catholics and no one hears a word.

    White people, expecially white males, are freely attacked these days while the Zionists lead this country around by the nose, into literally wars that kill innocent people. And yet many still accuse the Vatican as being some unholy nexus of war creation.

    Make clear note of the efforts of Zionism to infect Evangelical Christians with Dispensationalism — all in the hopes of supporting them in their anti-Arab genocides. This is an EVIL for Christians to be so used.

    Taking part in the Catholic bashing only pleases the anti-Goyim Jewish supremacists who seek to divide, blind and confuse the white people of the US. People like me are called “anti-semitic,” “racist” and “xenophobic” or anything to shut us up as they do what they want.

    Think about it! Come to my blog and read a few things. Watch some videos. I’ll have some coffee waiting.

    http://incogman.wordpress.com/

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